Aye Aye Captain! Meet Muff & Thunderbox of the Port of Bristol Crew!
Welcome aboard the latest episode of Shipshape and Bristol Fashion! This time around, we’re diving deep into the vibrant world of sea shanties, bringing you a behind-the-scenes look at the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew. The episode kicks off with our charming host, Oggie, who introduces our newest crew members, Muff and Thunderbox. These lads have some wild backstories and unique journeys that led them to the crew, and trust me, they’re quite the characters! We get all the juicy deets about how Muff discovered his love for shanties at the Kin Folk Festival and how Thunderbox was practically press-ganged into joining after a serendipitous encounter at a pub gig. It’s hilarious and heartwarming, showcasing the sense of community that’s at the heart of shanty singing.
The episode also features a segment from the Signaler, where the crew shares updates about their recent performances, including a lively Trafalgar Night celebration filled with traditional songs and a touch of rum-fueled revelry. They’re not just belting out tunes; they’re raising money for charity, inching ever closer to their goal of £50,000! They’ve got gigs lined up at the St Ives Shanty Festival and even a Movember initiative to support facial hair growth for a cause. So, whether you’re a seasoned sea dog or a landlubber looking to learn more about this nautical art form, this episode is packed with laughter, camaraderie, and a whole lot of fun!
As we sail through the episode, we dive deeper into the personalities of Muff and Thunderbox, who share their experiences and the thrill of joining the shanty crew. Muff talks about his musical background and how it all started with a few festival visits, while Thunderbox shares his journey and the humor behind his quirky nickname. The banter between the hosts is infectious, and you can’t help but feel a part of this jovial crew as they swap stories and jokes. It’s a celebration of friendship and the joy of music, reminding us that at the end of the day, it’s all about having a good time and making memories. So grab a drink, kick back, and enjoy this lively episode as we set sail on another adventure with the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew!
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- Bristol Masonic Widows Association
- SS Great Britain
- Teenage Cancer Trust
- Fisherman's Friends
- Storm Force 10
- Press Gang
- Movember
- Cheltenham College Chapel
- Pride of Britain
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00:00 - Untitled
00:24 - Introduction to Episode 22
01:06 - Introduction of New Crew Members
01:50 - News from Signaller
20:01 - The Evolution of Scouting Music
29:03 - The Essence of Performance and Charity
36:41 - The Port of Bristol Shanty Crew and Their Musical Journey
Hi, this is Will Keating and you're listening to Shipshape and Bristol Fashion.
Speaker BShip shape and Bristol Fashion.
Speaker BFrom evil gods to wonderful he them all the line Secure the barrels down below Bind and tie and jump this vessel she is certified ship shape from Bristol Fashion.
Speaker CHello, and welcome to episode 22.
Speaker CHi, it's Oggy here and it's great that you can join us and thank you for picking us to listen to if you're brand new to Shipshape and Bristol Fashion.
Speaker CWell, this podcast is all about the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew and what they get up to every single month.
Speaker CBut in fact, it's more than that because in fact, what we try and do is open the lid on the world of the shanty world and bring in special guests to talk about their influence in the world of shanti.
Speaker CIf you're a regular listener, hey, thanks for coming back.
Speaker CIt's great to have you back here.
Speaker CAnd we've got another interesting episode for you.
Speaker COn this month's episode, we're going to pop down to the crew room and meet two of our newest recruits, Muff and Thunderbox.
Speaker DYou might have already met them or.
Speaker CHeard about them on our social media.
Speaker DBut we felt that we needed to.
Speaker CInvite them on board to talk to you guys, the listeners, with regard to their backstories and who they are.
Speaker CSo when you listen to us or pump into us in the future, at least you know them a little better.
Speaker CBut before we pop down to the crew room, we're going to listen to the Signaler to catch up with what we've been up to the last month and where you can see us next month as part of the Port of Bristol Shanty Cruise.
Speaker EHeave ho, shipmates.
Speaker EIt's the Signaler here with all the news from the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew.
Speaker ESo October saw us doing three gigs, although two of those were on the same day.
Speaker EWe went in the middle of the month to support the Bristol Masonic Widows association and sang for them at their lunchtime meeting down in park street and in the evening onto the SS Great Britain for a private gig, which we were very grateful for in that the organizers made a very generous donation to our charity fund, which is creeping closer and closer to the 50,000 pound mark.
Speaker EThe highlight of the month, however, was the Trafalgar night celebrating the immortal memory of Lord Nelson.
Speaker EA great British evening, lots of singing of traditional songs, Rule Britannia, Land of Hope and Glory, and then finished off right at the end with the only song possible, led by Nobby Die with a drop On Nelson's Blood.
Speaker EA really, really great evening.
Speaker EThe crew were in great form and everybody thoroughly enjoyed themselves, probably to do with the tots of rum that were going around.
Speaker ESo, moving on to November, the first gig we will be doing in November is a big one.
Speaker EIt's the St Ives Shanty Festival.
Speaker EAnd if this is like any of the other Cornish shanty festivals, it will be an amazing weekend.
Speaker EWe're there on the Friday and Saturday doing a number of gigs around the town.
Speaker EIt'll be packed with shanty bands and I'm sure there'll be lots of pirates and probably even more rum.
Speaker EOn 28th November, we are hoping to support our very own Augie and his church in Yate, St Mary's we hope to get enough of the crew out there.
Speaker EI know we've got people doing other things, but we really want to support Oggy if we can.
Speaker EAnd then finally in the month, we've got another private gig on the SS Great Britain.
Speaker EProbably the biggest activity that's going on during the month of November is for Movember, the growing of facial hair, or not.
Speaker EThis is in support of all sorts of charities and obviously we were going to use the Teenage Cancer Trust if we can.
Speaker EI'm actually not taking part in terms of growing facial hair.
Speaker EI've got enough.
Speaker EI thought I might try and grow some on my head, but unfortunately that ship has sailed.
Speaker EBut I am giving moral support to the other guys.
Speaker EIf you want to visit our Facebook page, you'll see lots of pictures of us or our Movember page for the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew to see what some of the guys are hoping to achieve by the end of the month.
Speaker ESo that's it from the Signaler.
Speaker EHave a good month.
Speaker EWe'll see you again in December.
Speaker CThank you, Ash.
Speaker CAnd I am really looking forward to seeing some of the crew with their ever growing moustaches.
Speaker CIt's worth noting that some of the crew are not going to be growing moustache, but they're going to be doing some kind of physical activity or a challenge throughout this month.
Speaker CSo please do pop over to our Facebook page and find out more about their adventures and you can pop over to the Movember website and search for the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew and you'll see all the people that are supporting us.
Speaker COne thing that Ash didn't mention, but in fact, it's more of a December thing than it is a November thing.
Speaker CBut it is a bit of a pre warning for you all and for you to start Thinking about booking your tickets.
Speaker CAs you guys are aware, we were nominated to be part of the Pride of Britain fundraiser award.
Speaker CAnd of course, as a regional finalist, we have been rubbing shoulders with other fellow nominees and so we're really pleased to tell you that actually we're going to make the most of this moment and actually collaborate with a couple of the people that were mentioned across the southwest in the west of England.
Speaker CAnd so on the 20th of December, we are going to have an evening of music.
Speaker CIt's a collaboration of all the kind of people that have been involved to the Pride of Britain regional finalists.
Speaker CAnd it's going to be held in Cheltenham College Chapel.
Speaker CAnd it's a collaboration with us, of course, the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew at the delightful Pom Poms, but actually also with Reese, who is the night church pianist.
Speaker CHe is fantastic and actually went all the way to London to receive his award as the southwest finalist.
Speaker CSo if you are interested, then please do look in the show notes and of course there will be a link there to buy your tickets or pop over to social media onto our Facebook page and you'll see the ticket link there.
Speaker COkay, so let's pop down to the crew room and talk to Thunderbox and Muff.
Speaker DOkay, so Ollie, Shanty boy, let's head over to the crew room and take a seat next to the wonderful Thunderbox.
Speaker DBill and Colin, also known as Muff.
Speaker DGentlemen, how are you both?
Speaker AGood evening.
Speaker FVery well, very well, thank you.
Speaker FGood evening.
Speaker AWell, it's Dandy.
Speaker DIt's an absolute pleasure to be sitting here in the crew room meeting two of the newest crew of the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew.
Speaker DAnd for, and for the listeners, it's important to recognize that these guys just joined us in the summer period.
Speaker DWe've been so, so busy that we've not really made a big fuss about them being with us, but they've been with us for a good few months now during the summer period.
Speaker DSo much so that they've got their own character draws and they've got their own nicknames.
Speaker DMore of that to come.
Speaker DGentlemen, let's.
Speaker DLet's get some questions in for the listener to understand you a little better.
Speaker DLet's start with predominantly the basics.
Speaker DHow did each of you get involved with the crew?
Speaker DMuff, you were the first one in.
Speaker DLet's talk to you.
Speaker DHow did you get involved in the crew?
Speaker FThere's always been an interest in.
Speaker FIn music.
Speaker FRecently, the last eight or nine years.
Speaker FMy wife and I discovered Shanti singing initially at the Kin Folk Festival.
Speaker FAnd went there two or three consecutive years.
Speaker FSpent some time listening to the music.
Speaker FNot the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew, but a bunch called Storm Force 10, which involved the wonderful Augie and Nobby, I should say.
Speaker FAnd that really, when he appeared, it's something we were attending in Bristol.
Speaker FWe recognized him and followed the Port of Bristol chatty coup around a little bit.
Speaker DSo Nobby clearly is that attractive young man within the crew that has inspired you to come and join us here.
Speaker FWas being never forgotten.
Speaker DWell, I think so.
Speaker DI think many people have said that.
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker DWell done, Ollie.
Speaker AThat's great.
Speaker GVery lovely wife as well.
Speaker DYes, Bill, also known as Thunderbox.
Speaker DTell us a little bit, how did you get yourself involved in the Port of Ritual Shanti crew?
Speaker AWell, I'm afraid that Nobby and Rev have got a lot to do with it.
Speaker AAgain, I was looking down, living, living down here in Tara, dressing Cornwall on the south coast.
Speaker AMy local is the New Inn.
Speaker AAnd I was then in Press Gang, local group called Press Gang, which I helped set up.
Speaker AAnd we organized the Shanti Festival in the beer garden of the New Inn.
Speaker AI was scanning around for groups to invite, and I invited Storm Force 10 and who should rock up but the Rev and Lobby and some others.
Speaker ASo I thought, well, they're pretty good chaps.
Speaker ASo, and then it sort of went on.
Speaker AAnd at this year's Ale and Shanty Festival in the Masons hall and Parlor Street, I was down to go with the loose cannons of my.
Speaker ATwo of my friends were going to come up, but they both had hospital appointments on the same Saturday.
Speaker ASo I thought, well, blow this.
Speaker AI'll go up anyway.
Speaker AAnd the.
Speaker AThe boys were kind enough to say, well, look, if you're on your own, you can just join us and sing along.
Speaker ASo I. I stayed for one set.
Speaker AI thought, that's very kind.
Speaker AAnd they said, you're going to do the next set.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo three sets later, I was kind of an unofficial member of the crew, and I was invited down to help them out at Falmouth.
Speaker ATo the extent that I've.
Speaker AI. I've now got my own T shirt design, my own emoji, my own caricature.
Speaker AAnd I'm really chuffed with the whole business, really.
Speaker AIt's just such fun.
Speaker DI have to say that Nobby and the Rev are clearly very qualified in.
Speaker CPress ganging people, I have to say.
Speaker APress going.
Speaker AEven the press gang.
Speaker DYes, yes.
Speaker AYeah, but that was it, really.
Speaker AAnd now I'm.
Speaker AI'm gonna.
Speaker AI sang with the boys in Western as well.
Speaker AThis year and look forward to going to St Ives.
Speaker CNice.
Speaker DOllie, Ollie, over to you.
Speaker GSo how did you all get interested in sea shays and what drove you into them?
Speaker AShould I go first?
Speaker GYeah, you can go first.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker AI mean, my first son of.
Speaker AMy first interest in chant is via sort of folk music, I suppose.
Speaker AAnd this is long before your time.
Speaker AOllie was a guy called Huey Jones of the Spinners, and he was on TV every week in those days the BBC would have a folk music program and he would sing sea shanties.
Speaker AAnd I thought, well, this is.
Speaker AThis is my sort of music, you know, because I always had an interest in things nautical and historical and it was natural I should sort of gravitate towards sea shanties.
Speaker AAnd then I moved down to Cornwall in 2002, joined the male choir in 2006, and we found about a dozen of us that we actually like singing in the pub after rehearsals and concerts better than we actually like singing in concert.
Speaker ASo we formed a group called the Press Gang and mostly singing sea shanties.
Speaker AAnd we had a whale of a time and it's just hasn't really stopped since.
Speaker GIt all starts in a pub and then it goes off.
Speaker AYeah, it usually all starts in the pub.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker GSo what made you.
Speaker GI know, what made you interested in them.
Speaker GBut what drove it further?
Speaker AI think.
Speaker AI think helping to form the Press Gang and going to festivals and gigs and kind of networking with all the other shanty people around and seeing what a wonderful community it was.
Speaker AAnd it's just such a friendly scene.
Speaker AWhen I was talking to one of the organizers of the Murder Gissy Shanty Festival, he said, isn't this a great scene?
Speaker AHe said, there's no trouble all weekend, no drunkenness.
Speaker AI don't know what part of the festival he was at, but it seemed to be mostly very well behaved and very orderly and in the members of the public say, this is such a good vibe.
Speaker AI've not been to a shanti festival before, but isn't it friendly?
Speaker GBrilliant.
Speaker AAnd that's what comes across.
Speaker AAnd it's just.
Speaker AI mean, basically, what's not to like?
Speaker GYou know, what's not to like and love about a festival?
Speaker ABecause absolutely.
Speaker GCommunity is just the best like.
Speaker DIt is.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I've met so many nice people.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, my wife and I have met so many nice people, you know, yourselves included, from all over Britain and Europe as well, you know, German singers, Dutch singers, French singers, Canadians.
Speaker AFantastic.
Speaker DAnd what about you, Colin?
Speaker FMy.
Speaker FMy experiences with shanty singing is not half as much as it is billed.
Speaker GHas that been all the same?
Speaker FAbsolutely.
Speaker FCertainly getting an awful lot out of it.
Speaker FIt is tremendous fun.
Speaker FThe number of times, as I said, I have a musical background but not a singing background.
Speaker FAnd I was quite surprised when I had a phone call from Doc, one of the other guys in the Port of Bristol crew to invite me along having given some support.
Speaker FI was accused of.
Speaker FThey accused of.
Speaker FOf really being a bit of a hanger on getting fruity beer at the end of the.
Speaker FAt the end of big performances.
Speaker ATrue, but that sounds a familiar story.
Speaker AM. Yeah.
Speaker FIt is good fun.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker FAnd we're certainly getting a lot out of.
Speaker FA lot out of it now with only six months of being a member.
Speaker GYeah, it's been the best times of.
Speaker GIt's been the best time of my life being a member of the Core of Bristol.
Speaker GIt's been the best times and I.
Speaker DGuess Murphy, I know you say.
Speaker DI say you've not got a history in singing but I guess you know from your bio and from what we know so far is that you are clearly got an extensive scouting background so you must have had like decades of leading songs around campfires.
Speaker DAnd so I guess some of that experience translates into singing chanties.
Speaker FI wouldn't.
Speaker FI know what you're saying.
Speaker FBut the thing around the campfire has somewhat died in the Scouting.
Speaker GIt's something which is on the best times.
Speaker F10 or 15 years ago.
Speaker F10 or 15 years ago the scout troop I ran and now I'm still an active leader in and the group as such seemed to gather around the large campfire traditional singing the songs.
Speaker FWe did encourage the kids maybe in a smaller setup, but I feel it's.
Speaker FIt's not quite so popular as it used to be within the scout movement, but.
Speaker DWell, that is an utter shame.
Speaker DWell, I mean it's a shameless plug.
Speaker DI know, I know.
Speaker DFirst Yate where I live, they are.
Speaker AThey're.
Speaker DThey're a sing song around the fire.
Speaker DSo maybe it's just.
Speaker DIt just obviously it depends on the troop and the.
Speaker AAnd the.
Speaker CAnd the set, I guess.
Speaker FYes.
Speaker FI think certainly from my experience in Cajun the.
Speaker FThe attitude is it's a little bit out to date or outloaded.
Speaker FInterestingly not.
Speaker FWe don't get a lot of enthusiasm from the kids these days for that sort of entertainment, which is a shame.
Speaker FBut of course the way it goes.
Speaker GI think of course the best times of my life was in Scouting like scouting did so much.
Speaker FYou're now.
Speaker FYou're now an explorer, aren't you, Ollie?
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GI'm now explorer.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GAnd I've.
Speaker GI've now just been invested in the.
Speaker GIn this.
Speaker GIn the supernova.
Speaker GScouts.
Speaker GExplorers.
Speaker GSo, yeah, that's.
Speaker GI'd say scouting has.
Speaker GTeaches me.
Speaker GTeaches me how to be more confident, like singing.
Speaker GAnd it's really helped.
Speaker GI wish more people could do it because it really does help people.
Speaker AThat's good, Ollie.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker ESo that.
Speaker DLet's talk about your nicknames because I think it's important that you know through.
Speaker DThroughout the whole of the journey we've all tried to articulate clearly mine is all associated by an excessive amount of pasties that feature in my life.
Speaker CBut.
Speaker DAnd coming from Cornwall, but coming from.
Speaker GA Cornishman, that's not.
Speaker GThat's.
Speaker GThat's.
Speaker AThat's very.
Speaker DIt's not a bad thing.
Speaker AYou cannot have an excessive amount of plasti.
Speaker DThank you.
Speaker DThank you.
Speaker DAnd I think that's one of the reasons we've recruited you.
Speaker DSo you can at least import them for me because you just can't get a decent here in.
Speaker DIn Sunny Bristle.
Speaker DLet's.
Speaker DLet's start with you, Muff.
Speaker DClearly your name's Colin.
Speaker DSo how do we go from Colin and Muff?
Speaker FLet's.
Speaker DLet's unpick this and unpack this for the listener.
Speaker FIt's.
Speaker FIt goes back.
Speaker FIt goes back to my school days.
Speaker FI'm not quite sure why, but my surname is Murran, which is M U R I N which in school t to be get dur.
Speaker FThe devolved was Muffin.
Speaker FI had an older brother who was called Mint because of Murray Mint.
Speaker FBecause people didn't realize there was an in at the end of Murray.
Speaker FI thought it was Murray.
Speaker FSo he collared the Mint nickname and I just got caught.
Speaker FMuff.
Speaker FI mean, never.
Speaker FIt stuck.
Speaker FIt stuck for seven years.
Speaker FSo nobody calls me Muffin like you guys.
Speaker FWell, I still meet with quite a number of my old school pals.
Speaker FWe use the first Christian names now, but most was in school.
Speaker DLook at that.
Speaker DDid you even imagine that when you were a youngster, which I can imagine probably wasn't very.
Speaker DA long time ago really, but that you suddenly then realized that that name could be used again?
Speaker AI. I am so relieved there's such a sensible explanation for that, Colin, because my mind was racing your head while you were cool.
Speaker FYes.
Speaker DI don't know what you mean.
Speaker DThere's children in the room.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker AExplorer.
Speaker AHe's okay.
Speaker DHe's probably heard worse in scouting, of course.
Speaker DSo let's go on to you, Bill Thunderbox.
Speaker DNow, if you've seen the T shirt.
Speaker DIt looks phenomenal.
Speaker DLet's unpack that one.
Speaker DWhy are you called Thunderbox?
Speaker AWell, the boys were scratching around for a nickname and I've never really had a strong nickname, but I, I had to go back to school.
Speaker AAnd my initials of course being William Collins, A. W.C. and don't you love parents with a sense of humor?
Speaker ASo at school I was always called Boghouse Bill, you see.
Speaker ABut Nobby had the idea that Thunderbolts would be a downside better.
Speaker AAnd I, I must say I do agree with him.
Speaker AAnd I've.
Speaker AI've kind of settled down on Thunderbolts.
Speaker AI'm quite happy with that one.
Speaker DWe all love a little bit of toilet humor.
Speaker DIt's always good.
Speaker AYeah, it has a certain panache to Does.
Speaker DIt does.
Speaker DAnd those names are now yours forever and ever.
Speaker AOh, I'm very honored them for the.
Speaker GRest of your lives.
Speaker DI know.
Speaker AAnd my lovely emoji of a toilet seat as well.
Speaker AThat's really good.
Speaker DOh, it's thanks Apple and Android for making such beautiful emojis, which is great.
Speaker DNow Bill, you've been in that beautiful God's country now since around, I think you said, 2002.
Speaker DI mean, what changes have you seen in the shanty world since then?
Speaker DAnd, and what kind of changes have you seen whilst lifting coral?
Speaker AWell, I think changes in the shanty world have really started.
Speaker AI mean, you've got to blame the Fisherman's Friends for a lot of this and give them an awful lot of credit for the explosion in the initial shanty scene.
Speaker AI, I won't mention the Weller man, the COVID Postman and his success he's had with, with that.
Speaker ABut I think before, before COVID shanty was taken off thanks to fishy friends and.
Speaker ABut in a way, I guess, I mean it's, it's never gone away from Cornwall.
Speaker AI mean, you know yourself, I'll give that the tradition of Cornish singing in pubs.
Speaker AIt's always there and it's never gone away, but it's just become more, more popular.
Speaker AI think it's, it's accessible music.
Speaker AAnd there seem to be many more groups starting up now and there are an awful lot more groups around the county.
Speaker AAnd it seems that if you, I mean when we were putting on a festival initially back in 2015, I think it was a bit tricky to get six groups that were committed to coming.
Speaker ABut now you could get double treble that easily and have to turn people away because all a shanty group wants to do is sing and all they want is have a venue and if it's supporting a decent charity as well, they'll rock up and support it, which is great.
Speaker AWhich never used to be.
Speaker GWhat I like about Sea Change is that we're not doing this because we.
Speaker GWe're doing it for money.
Speaker GWe're doing it because we love it.
Speaker GAnd that's kind of as well.
Speaker AYeah, you did right, Ollie.
Speaker ABecause, you know, we enjoy it and we love it and we sing it anyway, really.
Speaker ABut if you can raise a few bar for charity as well, it's a good thing to do next year.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker GBig car there as well.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's interesting to see how many shanty groups down here have sprung off from male voice choirs.
Speaker AI'm thinking of Duhag with the newie male voice choir.
Speaker AAnd they sang at G7, for heaven's sake.
Speaker ADown in Carbis Bay this year for the world leaders of all things, you know.
Speaker AIt's amazing, isn't it?
Speaker DAbsolutely amazing.
Speaker GNobby also play at the G7 or something?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker FHe wrote.
Speaker FDidn't he write something?
Speaker AOh, yeah, he did, yeah.
Speaker DCorn Crate was sung, yeah.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker AWell done, Ollie.
Speaker AThat's the link.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThat was.
Speaker AThat was that.
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt is growing and continues to grow.
Speaker AI mean, my only worry is it's going to get too big and the festivals become too big in.
Speaker AAnd we already.
Speaker AAnd I mean, there were 90 groups at misi this weekend every three days.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker FAin't the biggest.
Speaker GI didn't even see half of them that much.
Speaker AI didn't see half of them either.
Speaker ABut as long as it's good fun, it'll just.
Speaker GAll them are good ones, to be fair.
Speaker GAll of them are good ones.
Speaker AYeah, they were, yeah.
Speaker ABrilliant.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWell, the rubbish has gone by the wayside now.
Speaker AI think the quality and standard.
Speaker AThe standard has gone up.
Speaker ADefinitely.
Speaker GBy how much?
Speaker DBy how much?
Speaker AOh, about that much.
Speaker ANo, I. I'm gonna think it is better, I think.
Speaker AAnd I don't want to.
Speaker AI don't want to name names or anything, but I think the original Fisherman's Friends, before they went instrumental, or the Longest Johns in their original format, just harmonics and.
Speaker AAnd their voices.
Speaker AThere are more groups now matching those that sort of quality.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhich they weren't before.
Speaker AAnd of course there's.
Speaker AThere's a commercial instrument road.
Speaker AAnd of course they become different.
Speaker ADifferent beasts, really.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker FIt's a different sign, isn't it?
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AIt's Entirely different.
Speaker FWe were.
Speaker FWe were put off going down to F simply because it's such a.
Speaker FA big festival and you know, we're.
Speaker FWe're now committed committed from.
Speaker FFrom.
Speaker FFrom Port of Bristol.
Speaker FGoing down there last year and having such a.
Speaker FA good weekend.
Speaker FIt.
Speaker FIt's in our diary and we booked our accommodation and it.
Speaker FIt looked absolutely fantastic fun.
Speaker GAbsolutely fantastic.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FThe P Fund that I've attended before consecutive years now it's much, much smaller but it is the same essence of just popping from one pub to a pub next door and listening to a different.
Speaker FA different crew and having another pie.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FIt's a lovely atmosphere and a much in a much smaller sort of.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GWhen I was around Mother Gissy I. I just thought it just looks like.
Speaker GIt looks like the pharmacy chain festival.
Speaker GThat's all I thought it was.
Speaker GBut it's literally the same essence as the Balance Festival.
Speaker GBut me, I like to all the same.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean Ollie, I am very, very lucky because I can drive to both for the day from where I live.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker ASleep in my own bed at night.
Speaker AIt's a big bonus to me.
Speaker DSo Muff muff.
Speaker DLet's talk about some references that are within your bio that maybe people are a bit confused.
Speaker DWhat is your obsession with thongs and what is it with Tina Turner?
Speaker FTo be honest, the.
Speaker FThe crib sheet that I gave Doc when.
Speaker FWhen he invited me to.
Speaker FTo come along was something which was given to me by friends and neighbors for my 60th birthday, which basically was a snapshot of how stupid I've been for the last 60 years.
Speaker FTina Turner was any party to get me dancing.
Speaker FWere the.
Speaker FAll you'd have to do is put Tina Turner on the record player back in those days and I would generally move to the music with no great skill.
Speaker FSo that was.
Speaker FThat's the Tina Turner thing.
Speaker FJust always.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FBang at the top of my.
Speaker FMy lungs.
Speaker FBut after a few pints it was not necessarily in tune.
Speaker DThat makes you have done big.
Speaker DThat makes you a good chanty singer, doesn't it?
Speaker FWell, that's it.
Speaker FYes, it helps.
Speaker GLow REVS rule no harmonizing, no harmonies.
Speaker CI think.
Speaker FI think that's the.
Speaker FMy.
Speaker FMy favorite single Isopedis in that respect.
Speaker CYes, of course.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker DAnd your obsession with thongs.
Speaker DLet's talk a bit more about that.
Speaker FThat's just something which just happened.
Speaker FThe reference can be songs is the Australian word for flip flops.
Speaker FWhich is again what I. I tend to live in.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker FHas the other meaning which just happens to be My underwear of choice.
Speaker FNow that's entirely, you know.
Speaker GOh, I didn't know what you meant by that.
Speaker AToo much information.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AOh, I can't unsee that image now.
Speaker FI tend to keep them covered up, but they are the most comfortable things to wear.
Speaker DThen I, I, I'm gonna need to explore to get them on our merch store.
Speaker DMuff Stone.
Speaker DLove it.
Speaker DWell, thank you for being open and honest there, Muff.
Speaker DThat's very, very good of you.
Speaker DIt's very good of you.
Speaker GSo what got you interested in what makes you go further in Sea Chinese?
Speaker AI think just experience of singing in, in so many venues with so many different people, you know, with press gang and things and then.
Speaker AYeah, I, I kind of, I, I split from them two years ago because they were getting a bit too instrumental for me and I started a vocal group called Liz Callens.
Speaker ASo we did that for two years and take it from there really basically.
Speaker FAs a relatively, you know, new relative newcomer to Shanti singing.
Speaker FI've not had the experience Bill has or a lot of the others, but I think it's just the enjoyment, the camaraderie, the fun and fellowship of enjoying it and also the fact it's primarily we're trying to raise money for, for charity and good causes.
Speaker FAnd that itself is something which is I've always been involved in from all of her school days.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GScouting is a charity.
Speaker FThat's right.
Speaker FAn interest in, an interest in.
Speaker FWell, I was a pass round table if that, that sort of concept.
Speaker FAnd then of course Scouting is a charitable organization in itself.
Speaker FA lot of, a lot of, a lot of work goes on and it's all for free.
Speaker FNobody gets paid.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GAnd I, if I had like two charities to just to raise money for, for Sea Chinese Teenage Cancer Trust would be up there and Scouting.
Speaker FYeah, yeah.
Speaker GThat they've saved so much for me and I love it.
Speaker AGood choices.
Speaker GSpecifically like the first one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker FNice.
Speaker DAnd of course at this time of recording, we are ever so close to the £50,000 raised since we start, which is phenomenal.
Speaker DSo we've, we've done a few gigs recently so that money is yet to flutter into the bank account.
Speaker DSo I've not seen a recent update, but confident that by December then we will of course have that magical £50,000 which is phenomenal.
Speaker DFor a bunch of men.
Speaker DA bunch of men singing and going from there.
Speaker DSo which is, which is phenomenal.
Speaker GWe're not just bunches of men.
Speaker GWell, that's all we are, the shanty boy.
Speaker GGoing further in Life doing what we love.
Speaker AWhat's this?
Speaker AWhat's all this?
Speaker AOld men like.
Speaker AWhat's all this?
Speaker AOddly, I would take issue with that.
Speaker DApologies, apologies.
Speaker DIt's just a, you know, a hard paper round.
Speaker DOf course.
Speaker DYes, of course, yes.
Speaker DLet's do a quick round of questions.
Speaker DOllie, you've got some questions there.
Speaker DLet's put this via them out.
Speaker GSo what's been your most embarrassing moment?
Speaker GGirls like performing, especially with you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AShould I kick off with this one?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker GAnd if you want.
Speaker AWell, yeah, I might get out of the way.
Speaker DShall we?
Speaker AIt was actually when I was singing for the 40th anniversary concert of the Mervissimo Choir up at the Eden Project and we'd heard the whole.
Speaker AWe had a top notch sound engineer room full of dignitaries.
Speaker AWe had Ralph Mattel singing with us as well.
Speaker AAnd I was doing the solo for the Flora Dance, which I knew backwards, upside down, inside out, until it came to me actually singing it and then I just lost it completely.
Speaker AI had no idea how it started or the tune or anything, but I managed to.
Speaker AI managed to wiggle out of it by.
Speaker ABy sidling over to the.
Speaker AThe conduct, the conductor's music and saying, oh, we're singing that version, are we?
Speaker AOf course, everyone fell about and thinking that I actually did it for comic effect.
Speaker AAnd people still say, that was really funny when you did that.
Speaker AI said, no, I was absolutely terror stricken at the time.
Speaker AI think that was probably my most embarrassing one on stage.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker GThe thing is, when you're doing a shanty festival and people mess up, you don't know if it's planned or not.
Speaker ANo, that's right.
Speaker ANo and half.
Speaker GI bet it's not planned.
Speaker ANo, but it just happens to all of us sometimes.
Speaker AAnd how many times have we said, how does this start?
Speaker AYou know, songs you've sung a dozen times and, you know, I can't think of the first words.
Speaker CYou know.
Speaker AIt happens to everybody.
Speaker AIt's not nice when it happens, but you just got to get through it.
Speaker GYeah.
Speaker DHow about you, Buff?
Speaker DIn your short time on stage, or any time that you've had to be.
Speaker FThis is it, Auggie, to be honest, I haven't yet.
Speaker FI'm sure I will be going.
Speaker FWell, I will go through the.
Speaker FThe loss of memory when it comes to singing the lead.
Speaker FAt the moment, I'm.
Speaker FI'm working on a song to perform as, you know, with.
Speaker FWith the lead and I haven't yet clammed up in public, but there's been a bit of minding going on.
Speaker FOnce or twice and I've got the number.
Speaker FThe.
Speaker FThey call us it.
Speaker FBut on.
Speaker FI haven't yet had the.
Speaker FThe experience that.
Speaker FThat Bill has had.
Speaker AI. I can tell.
Speaker AI can tell you.
Speaker AI can tell you another one now.
Speaker AChat.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI was singing with Press Gang down at Four Gallon Sailing Club and I got to the line in it when he was old and then his.
Speaker ANo, when he was young and in his prime.
Speaker AHe had them yellow gals too, at the time, and there were two Chinese ladies sat in the front row and I just.
Speaker AI got halfway through the line and I thought, I can't finish this.
Speaker ABut I got through.
Speaker AWas very embarrassing.
Speaker AAnd now I'm.
Speaker AI make sure now that I sing them pretty girls two at a time.
Speaker DThey're pretty girls.
Speaker GThe version of they had them in the girls.
Speaker AYeah, that was pretty awkward.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker DThat's the problem, isn't it?
Speaker DThese songs are so old and it is one of the privileges to be able to sing the songs that have been around for so long.
Speaker CHowever, then they're not always PC.
Speaker ADefinitely not.
Speaker AWell, good job.
Speaker AGood job.
Speaker AJust as well, really, too.
Speaker DYes, of course.
Speaker DWe've got to move with the times and thankfully we can move at the times and with a decent vocalist you can just rhyme another word in.
Speaker CIt's fine.
Speaker AI was talking to a group from Oxfordshire who were landlocked, basically, and I forget their name, but they're.
Speaker AThey're very good musically, but they.
Speaker AI said, do you have any festivals in Oxfordshire?
Speaker AAnd he said, only one in a local pub and we've been barred from it.
Speaker EWhy?
Speaker AWell, they wanted to see the lyrics to our shanties before we sang them and they didn't, you know, they canceled all the lyrics and said, you're not coming to our festival.
Speaker ASo they're one and only festival they've been barred from.
Speaker AI thought that was quite.
Speaker AQuite harsh, really, but you could say it was.
Speaker AThe pitfalls if you're not careful for.
Speaker GThe reasons why I can't play.
Speaker GWhy.
Speaker GWhy I feel like I can't sing in my school.
Speaker GBecause.
Speaker GBecause a lot I do sing in my school kind of.
Speaker GI can't sing City Shannon because some.
Speaker AOf them are like, yeah, I know.
Speaker AYeah, I know.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AWe've got to be so careful these days.
Speaker DQuite rightly so, but yes, of course.
Speaker DWhat would I.
Speaker DWhat would you say, gentlemen, is your most favourite Cornish or Bristol pub that you've gone to?
Speaker AGood question.
Speaker AMine's.
Speaker AMine's the new in entire address because it's my local and generally Speaking.
Speaker AIt's a very decent, decent pint of bass from the cask as well as the usual St Austell beers as well.
Speaker AAnd yeah, it's a fine parliament.
Speaker AAnd the beauty of it is I can walk there as well.
Speaker ASo that's good Bristol.
Speaker ANot so up to speed.
Speaker AI do love the Nova Scotia every time I go.
Speaker AThat's a proper boozer as well.
Speaker FThat's not a good beer.
Speaker AYeah, so that's my two tops, I think.
Speaker FYeah, we discovered it.
Speaker FWe discovered a small one just, just around the corner from the SS Great Britain the other evening.
Speaker FOh, yes, was very traditional.
Speaker FHad three barrels of beer laying behind the bar, all capped, ready to go, which was.
Speaker FWhich was delicious.
Speaker FBut for the life of me, I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker FAnd we only stopped for one.
Speaker FBut no, it's been a good evening.
Speaker FIf it stayed a bit longer, it could have been.
Speaker AGood evening.
Speaker DI believe it was called the Orchard.
Speaker DThe Orchard Pub, I think it was what it was called.
Speaker AOh yeah, Ciders in it as well.
Speaker DOh yeah, it's.
Speaker AIt's a good silence.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker GThat we sang in after the Bristol one.
Speaker GThat was really good.
Speaker FI like that.
Speaker DOh, is that the.
Speaker DOh, is it the cottage?
Speaker FThat was the cottage.
Speaker DThe cottage, yeah.
Speaker FYeah, yeah.
Speaker DNo, that's good then.
Speaker DMuff.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker DYou're.
Speaker DYou're a very civilized shanty man, aren't you?
Speaker DBecause of course we.
Speaker DWe're well known for rum and we're well known for beers and ales and ciders.
Speaker DBut you're more accustomed to the red stuff, aren't you?
Speaker FMy.
Speaker FMy Funchon is definitely red wine.
Speaker FI.
Speaker FIt's got me into quite a lot of trouble over the years for various reasonings, but I just.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FIn an effort to lose weight, I stopped drinking beer and carried and started drinking red wine, which is complete waste, waste of time.
Speaker FBut it is my go to tipple as a rule.
Speaker DIt even features center space on your.
Speaker DOn your crew T shirts.
Speaker FIt is.
Speaker FWell, we were going to put something else there, but it was sacred with the glass of wine, to be honest.
Speaker DAnd then listener, please do head over to our merch website and you'll be able to see both T shirts that we've spoken about so far.
Speaker DNice.
Speaker CGood stuff, Good stuff.
Speaker DSo, chaps, let's kind of draw this interview to a close.
Speaker DI think we've got a nice understanding of both of you and how you've kind of grown and developed and part of that.
Speaker DWhat does it mean both to both of you to be part of the port of Bristol Shanty Crew.
Speaker APersonally, I think it's a great honor, really.
Speaker DI'm not.
Speaker AI'm down here in Cornwall, but I. I'm still a very proud Bristolian as the Cornish are very proud Cornish people.
Speaker AAnd I think you should always be proud of where you come from.
Speaker AAnd it's a real.
Speaker AIt's a way of really connecting with Bristol roots, if you like, as well as singing shanties.
Speaker AAnd I'm just happy to.
Speaker ATo join them when I can and help raise charity money and just have a good time because a totally good bunch of chaps, I think.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker ASo that's basically it.
Speaker ANice muff.
Speaker FI would.
Speaker FI would agree with you.
Speaker FI would agree with you.
Speaker FIt'll be.
Speaker FIt is.
Speaker FIt's a field tunnel.
Speaker FBecause I was quite surprised when I was asked if I would be interested in joining.
Speaker FAs I said, since I have been part of the crew, it's certainly been tremendous fun and I think that in itself is estimate to sort of my ongoing commitment to the crew and the charities.
Speaker AAbsolutely, yeah.
Speaker AHaving fun is the main thing, I think.
Speaker AJust don't take yourself too seriously.
Speaker AThat's the key.
Speaker AOnce you start doing that, you're lost.
Speaker DYes, I would completely agree.
Speaker DYou can't take it too seriously, can you?
Speaker DWell, on behalf of the listeners, on behalf of the crew, you are both very fine additions.
Speaker DIt's great to have you on board and I.
Speaker DAnd I am very much.
Speaker DAnd I mean, I'm still very much a newbie.
Speaker DI've only just over a year in the crew.
Speaker DBut you add such value and it's great to have another kind of resident from Cornwall as part of the crew, but also a Bristol at heart.
Speaker DBut, but both of you, you've had such value in it and it is just so lovely to have a bunch of chaps getting together, having a chat, having a beer, having a sing song.
Speaker DIt's good for the heart, it's good for the soul and it's good for the crowds because they.
Speaker ATo.
Speaker AYeah, certainly is by the end of the day, all good fun.
Speaker AWell, thank you.
Speaker AThank you as well, Justin, for putting this on, organizing the podcast.
Speaker AYou and you and Ollie there, Shanty boy, what a good job you've been doing.
Speaker DIt's just.
Speaker DIt's just like drawing a picture.
Speaker DIf you enjoy drawing, then you love it.
Speaker DI enjoy creating podcasts, so it's great to just increase the reach to the word.
Speaker CWell, thank you, chaps.
Speaker DOllie, if you got anything you'd like to just add before we leave these gentlemen to carry on drinking Their.
Speaker DTheir drinks in there.
Speaker GDrink the honey.
Speaker FRum, honey.
Speaker GSay, it's very lovely, but I remember the picture.
Speaker AI have just had a little toss of it now to soothe my nerves and I must say it's lasting very well and going down its feet.
Speaker ABeautiful.
Speaker GThat's great.
Speaker GThat's all we like to hear.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker DOkay, chaps, thank you so much.
Speaker DLet's talk soon.
Speaker FPleasure.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ACheers then.
Speaker ABye.
Speaker ABye.
Speaker CWell, that's it for this month's episode of Shipshape and Bristol Fashion.
Speaker CThank you for listening and it was really great to hear a little bit more about Muff and Thunderbox.
Speaker CYou can find out more about the Port of Bristol Shanty Crew by going over to pobshantycrew.co.uk and you'll be able to see all of our normal bits and bobs on our website.
Speaker CAnd of course, the podcast is on shipshapepodcast.co.uk and of course, on either website there is a link to our merchandise.
Speaker DWe've got some great T shirts.
Speaker CAnd so if you're thinking about some Christmas presents, then that is a great way of buying something for your loved one.
Speaker CAnd of course, the great thing is when you buy the T shirt, a small contribution goes towards the Teenage Cancer Trust.
Speaker CSo that's it.
Speaker CThank you everybody for taking part in this episode.
Speaker CA big thank you to Ollie the shanty boy who helped me interview both of the new crewmates.
Speaker CAnd for you guys, thank you for listening.
Speaker CSo fair winds and following seas and we'll welcome you back next month.
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